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Bridge It => Solutions => Topic started by: Stew2000 on January 17, 2007, 01:31:50 PM

Title: I need some help.
Post by: Stew2000 on January 17, 2007, 01:31:50 PM
I don't want a complete answer, I just want a basic guideline on how to make a bridge for 'Medium 7'.
I just cant work it out.
I've even looked around the net for bridges that might work.
Title: I need some help.
Post by: Jonathan_NL on January 18, 2007, 01:42:24 PM
I just made an inverted arch of cable, with some beams of compression-resistant material to support the deck. Cheap (at least compared to the budget) and easy.

Edit: I recommend the forum of http://www.bridgebuilder-game.com/. The active bridge builders are there.
Title: I need some help.
Post by: apianglo on February 05, 2007, 02:11:12 PM
I`ve been stuck on complex 4 for to long....the only way I can see to build a bridge is to make the opposite bank a break joint yet the programme won`t let me,is the programme corrupt or am i missing something? :angry: HELP!!!!!
Title: I need some help.
Post by: on January 05, 2008, 03:07:15 PM
I am stuck on medium 7. Need help passing it. Thank you
Title: I need some help.
Post by: Chronic Logic - Josiah on January 06, 2008, 03:05:33 PM
Here is a image of a quick Medium 7 bridge solution:



Hope that helps.
Title: I need some help.
Post by: fivecentfather on April 29, 2008, 03:46:54 PM
I hope people are still monitoring these boards after so long, but these are new games to me, and I'm loving 'em.

I finished Pontifex first, and now I'm working on Bridge It!

I am having a terrible time with Hard 6, the bridge made with only iron.  I just can't get enough strength to make the distance no matter how I build things.  I've tried having the road arch up, arch down.  I've tried rectangles, triangles, and nothing seems to work.

I would sure appreciate a push in the right direction (or even a picture of the solution. :p )

Thanks.

~Ken
Title: I need some help.
Post by: on May 01, 2008, 04:04:47 AM
This Hard 6 bridge is very tricky, due to the low amount of money available. :(

But still enough to build this (can be optimized) :;):


  :;):
Title: I need some help.
Post by: fivecentfather on May 01, 2008, 11:32:56 AM
Thanks so much.  It was the lack of crossbars in those middle sections that made all the difference.  It both reduced the weight and gave just enough money to add a bit more support on the ends.  Excellent job.  I'll have to keep that crossbar thing in mind on future projects.
Title: I need some help.
Post by: on May 01, 2008, 05:56:49 PM
I want to share with you this two different bridges. :)

The bridge with low arch, costs only 11330  :laugh:





Title: I need some help.
Post by: fivecentfather on May 01, 2008, 09:58:39 PM
I tried something similar to your first solution, but couldn't quite get it to work.  Your 2nd solution is awesome, in that it doesn't look like it would even work.  Again, it's that lack of cross pieces that makes that work.  Good job.
Title: I need some help.
Post by: on May 02, 2008, 04:42:55 AM
Have you tried Bridge Construction Set already? :)
Title: I need some help.
Post by: fivecentfather on May 03, 2008, 02:52:31 PM
I finished Pontifex and BCS will be next after I'm done with this one.

Now I'm stumped on Complex 2.  It's another iron one, and these just seem to get me.  Iron can barely hold itself up, let alone anything else.  :(
Title: I need some help.
Post by: on May 04, 2008, 05:17:59 AM
here it is: Complex 2 with two different designs. :)

The level: Complex2

The image:
Title: I need some help.
Post by: fivecentfather on May 05, 2008, 01:55:05 AM
Awesome.  That round one is pretty complex all right.  I went with the triangle version.  I was pretty close to that one, but didn't have those double reinforced corners.  Another lesson there.

OK. I made it past that one, and the next three.  Now I'm on Complex 6, and I am at a loss to understand what I'm supposed to do.

Some clarification of the direction and orientation of the vehicles would be helpful for knowing what to build where.

The description says, "Using iron, steel and hydraulics, build a bridge to pass a complex 7 phase test.  A truck drives from the bottom right to the top left tunnel.  Then, a truck drives between the two bottom tunnels and a boat passes underneath. A truck then moves back across the bottom, a truck travels back down and finally a car drives across the top."

My questions:
Does the 2nd truck pass by AT THE SAME TIME the boat is going under?

Which direction do the 2nd, 3rd and 4th trucks travel?

Which direction does the final car go?

How many times are the hydraulics triggered in the test, and when does that happen?

Thanks for all the help.  I'm almost done with this game.  Gonna get BCS at the end of the week.
Title: I need some help.
Post by: on May 05, 2008, 02:36:08 PM
Can't answer to that question at the moment, because i'm away from home with a laptop.  :(
But i promise to reply tomorrow. :)

------------------X------------------

OK! This is the right sequence:
1 - A truck drives from the bottom right to the top left tunnel.
2 - Hydraulics phase
3 - A truck drives to the left between the two bottom tunnels
4 - Hydraulics phase
5 - A truck then moves back (to the right) across the bottom and at the same time the boat passes underneath.
6 - Hydraulics phase
7 - A truck travels back down (from top left tunnel) and at the same time a car drives across the top to the right.
Title: I need some help.
Post by: fivecentfather on May 06, 2008, 10:43:43 PM
:p
OK, this makes my head hurt just trying to figure out what has to happen at the same time.

During the resting phase of the hydraulics a truck has to go from bottom right UP to top left, AND a truck has to pass from bottom left to bottom right, somehow passing through the roadway the truck going up is traveling on.

During the activated phase of the hydraulics a truck has to drive from bottom right to bottom left OVER the boat AND a truck traveling from top left must drop down onto the roadway to exit on the bottom right AND a car coming from the top right (going TO the left) has to drop down onto the roadway and exit to the top left.

This seems nigh impossible, especially without cables to make swinging structures.

I'm gonna have to think on this one for awhile before I even start building anything.

Let me know if there is anything I'm missing/have wrong.
Title: I need some help.
Post by: on May 07, 2008, 05:21:47 PM
The purpose of the hydraulics is to open or close the connection between the roads.
The ship travels under the bridge.

Check again the sequence of the phases.

btw: sorry for the "fase" mistake... is phase

phase 1 - A truck drives from the bottom right to the top left tunnel.

phase 2 - Hydraulics phase

phase 3 - A truck drives to the left between the two bottom tunnels

phase 4 - Hydraulics phase

phase 5 - A truck then moves back (to the right) across the bottom, and at the same time the boat passes underneath. (fixed)

phase 6 - Hydraulics phase

phase 7 - A truck travels back down (from top left tunnel) and at the same time a car drives across the top to the right.

END


Title: I need some help.
Post by: fivecentfather on May 08, 2008, 02:41:52 PM
Well, your design is cool, but I must be missing something.  How can the truck move back to the right (phase 5) with the top road down (hydraulics at rest) and blocking the route from left to right?
Title: I need some help.
Post by: on May 08, 2008, 03:54:44 PM
Quote (fivecentfather @ May 08 2008,11:41)
Well, your design is cool, but I must be missing something.  How can the truck move back to the right (phase 5) with the top road down (hydraulics at rest) and blocking the route from left to right?

The truck can move back to the right (phase 5) with the top road down.
Then takes place the phase 6 (hydraulics), and in phase 7 both roads (up and down) are open to the car and the truck.

The first image is when the hydraulics are in rest.
Then the position of the decks are fine for phase 1 and phase 5.

The second image, is when the hydraulics was operated.
On this position of the decks are fine for phase 3 and phase 7. :)
Title: I need some help.
Post by: fivecentfather on May 08, 2008, 04:26:28 PM
If the truck in phase 5 moves across the bottom road from left to right when the road is down (first image), how does it get through the roadway?  Again, I must be missing something.
Title: I need some help.
Post by: on May 09, 2008, 04:23:38 AM
Quote (fivecentfather @ May 08 2008,1:26)
If the truck in phase 5 moves across the bottom road from left to right when the road is down (first image), how does it get through the roadway?  Again, I must be missing something.


We are talking about the Complex 6 level, right? ???

"If the truck in phase 5 moves across the bottom road from left to right when the road is down (first image)," <<< stop here !!! :)

HERE, :)  the hydraulics phase takes place,and set the position shown on the second image.  :;):

then, the truck can cross the road in down , and the car can cross the road above   :laugh:
Title: I need some help.
Post by: fivecentfather on May 10, 2008, 11:56:43 PM
OK. I finished the level.  Here is the correct order of events:

A. A truck passes from the bottom right to the top left.

B. Hydraulics phase.

C. A truck passes from the bottom right to the bottom left.

D. Hydraulics phase.

E. A truck passes from the top left to the top right while the boat passes underneath. (The truck had a tendancy to fall THROUGH the roadway on me.)

F. Hydraulics phase.

G. A truck passes from bottom left to bottom right and a car passes from top left to top right. (The car also sometimes flew off the road -- crazy driver)

I scored about 5000 pts which is not spectacular, but not too bad.  I was pleased with my solution.
Title: I need some help.
Post by: on May 11, 2008, 03:54:58 AM
Well done! i'm glad for you, because you can solve the puzzle without significant help. :)

the level: Complex 6

This is the images of the my final solution with less hydraulics.



Title: I need some help.
Post by: fivecentfather on May 21, 2008, 08:27:19 PM
OK, after a short hiatus, I'm BAAAAACK....

Complex 7 is giving me fits again.  I can't figure out what to do with the back anchors (if anything).  I can make a fairly stable structure utilizing the ten heavy steel beams, but it still keeps breaking right in the middle no matter what I do.

Help!!
Title: I need some help.
Post by: on May 24, 2008, 08:45:51 AM
Quote (fivecentfather @ May 21 2008,5:27)
Complex 7 is giving me fits again.  I can't figure out what to do with the back anchors (if anything).  I can make a fairly stable structure utilizing the ten heavy steel beams, but it still keeps breaking right in the middle no matter what I do.

Help!!


:p Just wait for Complex 8 :D

My first complex 7 are made with iron steel and heavy steel.
But i built another with Iron only! :)

The level file: Complex 7 Iron