Chronic Logic

Dude, you have no idea how much I agree with you. The records for those types of bridges are more of a hit-or-miss case than I'd like to think of.

Your bridge will very likely work without those light steel bars.. just connect cable to cable

Arches are the strongest but are slightly more expensive than Suspension. With a little ingenuity, though suspension can easily become stronger. (I.e. replace the top with a 'V' shape tied together with cable will give you a better angle to support the deck)

1st place gets a free Cruise Missile and 2nd place wins teh prize!

The tension is killing me!

*blows up*

Or maybe a "Contest run" feature that automatically runs the train at a time specified in the contest level file. This would solve a lot of the settling time problems we're having.

Accidental double post... Er.. uh...

A funny think happenes to me on teh awy here... uh... er, ####.

(Edited by falkon2 at 10:06 pm on Oct. 29, 2001)

Heh. I think everyone's going to be hush-hush on their minimum budgets for this one =)

Or even give false (I.e. higher figures) to lull folks into a false sense of security.

LOL! I think simplicity is what CL wanted.. they wanted a bridge that is, stealing a quote, "Easy to learn, Hard to master" in that sense. Simple enough that anyone can participate in the contest, yet large enough that we can spend days optimizing the bridge and provide challenge for maniacs like Gray

BTW, Just sent in my bridge. Gray: I've gotten it cheaper than when we last talked, but I'm not telling HOW much cheaper =P. Let you simmer a bit in anxiety before you click "send".

Edit: Deadnough: Nope, CL wasn't referring to that - removing the cross-beam actually weakens the structure. What CL was talking about is an exploit that gives you deck cheaper, yet has exactly the same physical properties as a normal, unexploited deck. After the contest I'll start a thread detailing that bug, and (if CL doesn't already fix it by then) some suggestions for workarounds which might also provide another neat feature for Pfx.

(Edited by falkon2 at 5:06 am on Oct. 25, 2001)

I see Chronic Logic's chronic logic in only allowing one entree per contestant, (I think, so correct me here if I'm wrong). As the community grows, more and more people are going to participate in the contests, and if each of them sent one bridge instead of, say, three, it would reduce the amount of bridges submitted by 2/3rds.. Obviously this would make it easier for the contest logistics to be handled.

baggio: *Grin* We live and learn =)

Argonut: The speed dictates the simulation speed, not the speed the train runs. If you make a really bouncy bridge, you'll notice when switching to "fast" that the frequency of bouncing increases. Your train will behave the same way regardless of the simulation speed.

The deck would be extremely weak without the metal at the sides... it would just snap off the boxlets at either end at the slightest twist. Therefore, the metal does serve a purpose and therefore should not break either =)

Whoa there, I'm not talking about anything more than a 5% decrease total. Its just an incentive to finish quickly and send in the bridge.

And let me ask you this. You comment on someone downloading the bridge on the 25th and not being able to win. Logically speaking, with or without this small little bonus, do you think he'll be able to slap up a design would beat someone who'd thought about and optimized his bridge from the very start? And if it did, would it be by that small a margin that a small bonus would drop him to second place?

If that second guy had spent a long time optimising his bridge anyway, he'd be sending it in pretty close to the deadline anyway, thus nullifying the bonus.

You don't have to fault me for making a suggestion. Its not like CL will absolutely listen to whatever I say and implement it, so keep your cool a little

CL: I think maybe a bonus could be implemented, say cut the price by an exponential number based on the number of days (including fractions)  left to the end of the contest from the time the bridge is submitted. If not, all the "heavyweights" on the board wont see any reason not to wait till the last minute to submit

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Quote: from mat-c on 4:51 pm on Oct. 29, 2001
I didn't win either, but I did get a special mention with something like 5th place or thereabouts...

Well, you beat ME, so you should be happy =)