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« Reply #45 on: October 23, 2001, 12:24:40 AM »
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« Reply #46 on: October 24, 2001, 11:11:31 AM »
Quote: from beaujob on 5:07 pm on Oct. 22, 2001
once in a while a bridge design doesn't require the metal on the sides of roadway.  Is it fair to require that these links don't break either?For the purposes of the competition, it's a good idea to only allow "clean" bridges, but it is frustrating - I've made some nice "almost-clean" bridges that work fine, but aren't 100% clean for ฝ,000 cheaper than my best clean bridge... ':('

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« Reply #47 on: October 21, 2001, 10:26:57 AM »
Whoa there, I'm not talking about anything more than a 5% decrease total. Its just an incentive to finish quickly and send in the bridge.

And let me ask you this. You comment on someone downloading the bridge on the 25th and not being able to win. Logically speaking, with or without this small little bonus, do you think he'll be able to slap up a design would beat someone who'd thought about and optimized his bridge from the very start? And if it did, would it be by that small a margin that a small bonus would drop him to second place?

If that second guy had spent a long time optimising his bridge anyway, he'd be sending it in pretty close to the deadline anyway, thus nullifying the bonus.

You don't have to fault me for making a suggestion. Its not like CL will absolutely listen to whatever I say and implement it, so keep your cool a little


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« Reply #48 on: October 23, 2001, 03:02:47 AM »
I sent my beginner bridge in. ':)'  It took quite a while to figure out a combination that made for 0 broken links, but it is possible.

I can't wait to see what the winning design is!

-Andy


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« Reply #49 on: October 24, 2001, 02:25:07 PM »
Hi,

i have finally made one... for (edited by CL)...
no prob here...

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« Reply #50 on: October 21, 2001, 02:35:14 PM »
Howdy all.  There are a lot of good ideas floating around here, and we may implement some of them at some point in the future.  We are definitely going to do other types of contests besides the economically challenging, but that is the goal of this contest.  I apologize if it was not stated clearly before.  Like I said, this is the first contest and we are going to make some mistakes, and we thank you for correcting us when we do.  I will update the official contest rules with this goal and also mention that we don't want people talking about numbers.  I think everyone is keeping their cool, they are only offering their own opinions on a very open issue.  As for this contest, the rules stand as they are unless someone else points out another omission on our part.

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« Reply #51 on: October 23, 2001, 04:28:28 AM »
The deck would be extremely weak without the metal at the sides... it would just snap off the boxlets at either end at the slightest twist. Therefore, the metal does serve a purpose and therefore should not break either =)

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« Reply #52 on: October 24, 2001, 02:43:23 PM »
Um... ChronicLogic specifically asked for people not to post what their cost was...

On a totally different subject: I started the longest thread, yay!


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« Reply #53 on: October 26, 2001, 01:25:11 AM »
Now I know my submitted bridge is poor... I just made one พk cheaper... It doesn't even require a settling time. [Banging head against wall] I'm quitting and going to bed before I tick myself off even more.

Why I couldn't do this a week ago I don't know. I spent several hours over the week and couldn't make a cheaper design. In the past two, I've shaved off mucho bucks.

beaujob: I wouldn't mind doing kung-fu in the shadow of a bridge that I built while death and a clown get it on in the bathtub next door, but that's a long ways off.

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« Reply #54 on: October 21, 2001, 04:29:43 PM »
Congrats Chroniclogic Team on running the first contest. Good choice of level I thought for the first one. Allows many different styles to be adopted.

I've made my submission, and look forward to the results, if only to see the way others tackled it.

Looking forward to the next one already....

Regards to all in the forums, this really is beginning to become a lively, and friendly community.

-=// He who hesitates - probably isn't sure that there are no broken links \\=-

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« Reply #55 on: October 23, 2001, 11:43:16 AM »
While this perhaps isn't the correct place to discuss this, I have made a number of bridges where practically all of the deck supports have broken and my bridge still worked exactly the way I intended.  It happens on my ultra-cool rope bridges (no support underneath or over, just cables running along the sides of the decking connecting the pieces together).  I have had working bridges with over 1,000 broken links from building that way.  I don't think it would be a good idea to allow deck supports to break in competitions though (for one thing, it is often very difficult to tell exactly what pieces broke, especially as the number of broken links increases).

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« Reply #56 on: October 24, 2001, 03:58:07 PM »
Well, CL will probably censor DaSucker's post pretty soon, but that figure is making me feel pretty good about the bridge I submitted...  I made three different designs, and I gotta say the first one that was just a straight deck suspended form a generic heavy steel arch was 40k cheaper.  ':)'

I'm glad CL is censoring prices, because I would probably be really frustrated right now trying to win.  As it is, I'm done with it, and even though I'm sure someone like Gray or Chillum will beat me, I'm #### proud that I came up with a weird design that turns dark blue and bright red from one end to the other but doesn't break ':)'

I'd like to see everybody take a screenshot of their bridge (in the edit screen) and let everybody look at all the different designs when the contest is over... especially the winner.

And on a side note, aren't the little blue smiley faces eerily calm looking?

':)' ':)' ':)' ':)' ':)' ':)' ':)' ':)' ':)' ':)'



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« Reply #57 on: October 26, 2001, 01:43:03 AM »
I see Chronic Logic's chronic logic in only allowing one entree per contestant, (I think, so correct me here if I'm wrong). As the community grows, more and more people are going to participate in the contests, and if each of them sent one bridge instead of, say, three, it would reduce the amount of bridges submitted by 2/3rds.. Obviously this would make it easier for the contest logistics to be handled.


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« Reply #58 on: October 21, 2001, 04:50:23 PM »
I hope the top 5 bridges are posted for viewing, not just the winner.

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« Reply #59 on: October 23, 2001, 12:05:43 PM »
I like the Idea that ChronicLogic is censoring bridge budgets. If I read that post and found out that someone has a cheaper bridge that me I wouldnt even bother to submit my contest entry. And thats just me, lets say a whole bunch of others do not submit, that could mean a small turnout and no more contests! :(

And, the more entries, the better. Hopefully CL will post screenshots of all the entries after the contest. I love browsing through tons of other designs - contest winners or not!

And who knows, even though I dont feel those who have posted scores were doing such to deceive people, what if someone wasn't totally truthful with their cost and they discouraged someone from entering that could have really won?

Just my Ũ.02